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Lolo's avatar

Not going to be tolerating racist nonsense in this comment section. Have already had to block people.

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Matt Wallach's avatar

It’s going to be a hot summer. Three cops responsible for killing Tyre Nichols were just let off, and I didn’t even know about Ryan Hinton’s murder until I read this piece. I don’t think the public can stand by idly much longer.

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Isis Haynes's avatar

Saying policing “needs to end” will resonate with me more than “defund the police” has. Great as always lolo

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Cait Woodcock's avatar

Cops and Health Insurance, two systems with blood on their hands. If you support Luigi, you should be supporting Rodney too. ACAB

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Cody Bailey's avatar

I live in Cincinnati and the amount of blue lives matter flags that have popped up is alarming, although not surprising. We've had a lot of disturbing cases of abuse by the police here, and I fear it's only going to get worse.

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Norm's avatar

If you want to argue it’s immoral, go ahead- but it is effective, and it always has been.

My stance is that, unfortunately, someone in society is going to face violence and brutality. I can either allow it to happen to women and children at the hands of criminals, or I can allow it to happen to criminals at the hands of the police. It’s a pretty easy choice, as far as I’m concerned. Murderers and rapists should be summarily tried and publicly hanged. Assault should be punished with flogging. Theft should be punished with humiliation. If you are caught with illegal drugs, the punishment should be that you are forced to ingest the entire quantity that was found on your person- if you had a half kilo of fent in your backpack, good luck, because you’re not getting narcan

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Sandy's avatar

Written like a weirdo that could never get it

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Norm's avatar

Yeah, and it’s going to continue- because innocent people have more to fear from criminals than from cops. If you don’t act like an asshole, 99% of people will never have a problem with the police. Live in a city for a year, you will have multiple problems with criminals. Most people’s lives would dramatically improve if we allowed more police brutality against the mentally ill drug addicts that terrorize random men, women, and children on the streets and against the serial criminals who shoplift stores out of existence, mug passerby’s, and break into any car or house they think might have something valuable.

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Maxwell's avatar

Psycho bullshit, and also just factually incorrect, but those often are one and the same, aren’t they?

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Norm's avatar

Talk to people who live and work in cities- ESPECIALLY women. Ask them whether they’ve been victimized more by criminals or police. It’s the former

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Maxwell's avatar

Odd to imply that I don’t already. In any case, brutality is as ineffective as it is utterly immoral, and advocating for it is deeply depraved behavior.

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Rikki's avatar

Why are we doing the victim Olympics? All forms of violence and brutality are immoral; Therefore, we should question why there are people in a position of power who believe they are allowed to do so.

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Norm's avatar

Because criminals exist, whether you like it or not, and no amount of hippie “can’t we all just get along” is going to change it. There is a section of the population that will victimize anyone weaker than they are, just because they can. They are violent people. The only way to deal with them is by using violence to stop them from harming innocent people. This has been true since the dawn of history and will be true until the end of time

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Nikko's avatar

im gonna give you some feedback about what im hearing, norm. if you dont want to hear it, dont read it.

norm, it sounds like you've bought into a specific narrative that is used to separate ourselves from each other. the truth is, you probably have more in common as far as lived experiences and material reality, with the folks you refer to as criminals. i hear that youre concerned about murder and rape.

it sounds like we all can agree that murder and rape are immoral, violent actions that do not have a place in our society. how does punishment, and specifically violent punishment, fit into the cycle that reinforces and perpetuates violence? if we're using the same means we want to escape, how does that get us to our end? who decides who gets punished and why? there are certain people who get away with rape and murder, not because of a flaw in the system, but because that's exactly how it was built. who has more power, and why?

i suggest that you find some curiosity in yourself to ask more questions about what you're noticing. you might find a greater understanding of the world you experience if you step outside yourself and the same narratives youve been taught all your life.

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Aneesa Rahman's avatar

My friend is one of the Filton18 political prisoners in the UK and quoted this to me on a phone call using your government name last night. Genuinely threw me for 5 mins because I only know you as Lolo!! One of those lovely coinkidinks that made me happy. It really resonated with them, thank you xx

"Reforms that tinker around the edges don’t just fail, they entrench. Rather than keep us all safer, they build a better cage."

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Alejandro Diaz's avatar

Your best work yet.

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Samuel's avatar

He was not wrong. I will never get over the fact that the RCMP in Canada was created to force indigenous folks from their land. 2025 they continue to do the same shit

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Fool Of Good Ideas's avatar

Free Rodney, Free Luigi

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Telise Fullington's avatar

Thank you for this. I’ve been struggling for the words for it myself, and this did it justice.

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Isabella Camargo's avatar

One important thing: BLM protests were only a few years ago, no even 5, and it seems like nothing of substance really changed. The biggest protests in the century, worldwide commotion and no real changes, did we fail to organize? Did we stop too soon?

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Jack Long's avatar

Great great read. I work in a deli and overheard a cop talking to his buddy for upwards of an hour. At one point he began fantasizing about getting to pile drive tackle someone running away from him into the ground. Word for word saying “I’d love to feel the wind leave their chest” as he drove them down. I could tell his buddy found it weird but would he report him? Never.

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Bort Peck's avatar

The body cam mention is real, it is fundamentally a reform that does try to do good but only extends surveillance and power of the stalker state and is a reform wrapped up in progressive rhetoric that most people can find themselves getting behind in the guise of accountability, but ultimately doesn’t bring the justice and change needed.

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rachael braithwaite's avatar

Absolutely gassed to see a Foucault mention 👏👏👏

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Shane's avatar

It's beyond clear that the entire American institution of municipal policing is fundamentally broken. The only real path forward is winding down this culture of impunity by disbanding every police department in the country and replacing them with a new form of law enforcement that shares 0 DNA with what came before it.

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